Any Law That is Inconsistent With the Provisions of the Constitution is, to the Extent of the Inconsistency, of no Force or Effect
On Thursday (December 10th) Dan Brooks, leader of the BC Conservative Party, issued a media release
regarding Senate appointments, the case for BC holding elections to fill
vacancies, and for BC to receive a number of seats EQUAL to the population of
our province. The text of the release,
put forward, was as follows:
... a better alternative towards reforming Canada's Senate: the direct election of 13
Senators by and for British Columbia.
... Prime Minister Justin Trudeau proposed a new formula to fill Senate vacancies in which five
citizens would be selected, including three appointees
by the federal government and two by the province involved. These
appointees would develop a list of candidates meeting an improved set of
qualifications to be a Senator from which the Prime Minister would select the
eventual appointee ... the Prime Minister may informally consult the province involved
but is not required to do so.
That proposal was peremptorily dismissed by BC Premier Christy Clark, first in some quick Tweets then in interviews in which she said the Senate should either be fixed or folded because giving its unelected members more legitimacy without any accountability could make the Senate problems even worse.
... Prime Minister Justin Trudeau proposed a new formula to fill Senate vacancies in which five
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That proposal was peremptorily dismissed by BC Premier Christy Clark, first in some quick Tweets then in interviews in which she said the Senate should either be fixed or folded because giving its unelected members more legitimacy without any accountability could make the Senate problems even worse.
... Brooks took
both sides to task and instead offered a constructive solution: the election of
13 Senators with voting coincident with the provincial election set for May 9, 2017, which would avoid the several millions of dollars
needed to hold a stand-alone election for what could be merely a symbolic
gesture until the Senate is finally reformed.
"First the Prime Minister put forward a dubious
innovation apparently without any consultation and containing precious little
public involvement and then Premier Clark dismissed it without suggesting
a better alternative, which is another classic example of how poorly
federal-provincial relations have so often been conducted in Canada's
history," said Brooks, pointing to a table showing that British Columbia
has the worst under-representation by far.
"If Premier Clark wants to fix the Senate she could
start by holding elections for Senators right here in British
Columbia," Brooks said, explaining that such a strong political
statement could help push Ottawa and the rest of Canada into more quickly
repairing the unfairness done to BC.
"If Prime Minister Trudeau respects democracy he
would quickly appoint six Senators from the 13 that we will elect, but the
obvious problem is that he will not be able to appoint any added Senators until
the upper chamber is properly reformed," said Brooks.
"BC and The West are still fighting for a Triple-E Senate that is Elected, Effective and Equal because we see that as a possible remedy to long-standing imbalances in Canadian politics and economics," said Brooks.
"The means of Senate election, terms and age limits of the Senators would be a matter for public input ... BC Conservative Party wants to bring a new more open and consultative style to government and this idea for electing Senators is a good first example of that," he said, promising to produce a whole new platform and a strong roster of candidates in the 2017 campaign.
... I would ensure that the people of the province actually get more of a say in matters like these and many others," said Brooks, noting that legitimacy must be earned and the current Canadian Senate has virtually none of it ...
"BC and The West are still fighting for a Triple-E Senate that is Elected, Effective and Equal because we see that as a possible remedy to long-standing imbalances in Canadian politics and economics," said Brooks.
"The means of Senate election, terms and age limits of the Senators would be a matter for public input ... BC Conservative Party wants to bring a new more open and consultative style to government and this idea for electing Senators is a good first example of that," he said, promising to produce a whole new platform and a strong roster of candidates in the 2017 campaign.
... I would ensure that the people of the province actually get more of a say in matters like these and many others," said Brooks, noting that legitimacy must be earned and the current Canadian Senate has virtually none of it ...
Now
interestingly enough, I agree with Dan on the call for Senate reform. Having come through the ranks of the Reform
Party of Canada, and Reform BC, that was a key principle of both. Not everyone agreed with him though. One of my political colleagues went so far as
to say:
"... my question is,
when did the BCCP decide that we wanted to have an elected senate. I absolutely
oppose an elected senate. This guy is establishing policy on the fly- reminds
me of the last Provincial election ..."
My
response was:
Sorry but I'm offside with you on
this one, in part anyway. I do believe in a triple E Senate, and have
since Reform BC and Reform Canada
days. That said, I do take Dan to task
for not being more aggressive.
I think his stance should have
been flat out, the provincial government MUST elect the 6 senators for BC, and
that the government should fight tooth and nail, up to and including a Charter
challenge to the Supreme Court of Canada, if the federal government
ignores our wishes.
Good to have differing opinions
though, I hope. :)
Now why
did I say what I did. It was because the
Government of Canada agrees with me. Not
the current ruling party, or the one before it; the institution itself, of the
Government of Canada.
For
example, on the Government of Canada's official website you will find the
following:
Democracy Defined
The word democracy
describes a political system. In a democratic country, all eligible citizens
have the right to
participate, either directly or indirectly, in making the decisions that affect
them. Canadian citizens normally elect someone to represent them in making
decisions at the different levels of government.
This is called a representative
democracy.
Personally,
I consider the Senate to be a level of government -- would anyone care to
disagree with me on that? The Senate
gets to decide if laws passed by Parliament pass muster with them. Therefore, they ARE a level of government.
Let me go
on to provide this additional information:
First, it
refers to the division of Canada into four regional Senate divisions of 24
senators each, as set out in the Constitution of Canada (as defined in
subsection 52(2) of the Constitution Acts, 1982, consisting of the Canada Act
1982 (including the Constitution Act, 1982), all acts and orders referred to in
the schedule (including the Co0nstitution Act, 1867, formerly the British North
America Act), and any amendments to these documents. The four regions are the Western Provinces,
Ontario, Quebec
and the Maritimes. These regions are
intended to serve the Senate's purpose of providing regional representation in
the Parliament of Canada.
The founders of Confederation gave the Senate the
important role of protecting regional, provincial and minority interests. They
assigned each region the same number of seats in order to guarantee them an
equal voice in the Senate. Seats were added as new provinces and
territories entered Confederation. Today, the Senate has 105 seats, distributed
as follows:
• The Maritimes Division — 24 (New Brunswick — 10, Nova-Scotia — 10, Prince Edward Island — 4)
• The Ontario Division — 24
• The Quebec Division — 24
• The Western Division — 24 (British Columbia — 6, Alberta
— 6, Saskatchewan — 6, Manitoba — 6)
• Additional representation — 9
(Newfoundland and Labrador — 6, Northwest Territories — 1,
Yukon Territory — 1, Nunavut — 1)
(Newfoundland and Labrador — 6, Northwest Territories — 1,
Yukon Territory — 1, Nunavut — 1)
So as I
read and understand this information, it was ALWAYS INTENDED that the Senate be
equal. There was NEVER any intent that Quebec and Ontario be
given a stranglehold with OVER REPRESENTATION ... nor that the Atlantic be given a number disproportionate to their
smaller population, NOR THAT THE WEST BE WHOLLY UNFAIRLY GIVEN A HUGE MINORITY
OF SEATS.
The
intent was always that regions / Provinces have a number of seats in the Senate
based on population. Let me go on
further with the following information; this from the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms:
Democratic
Rights of Citizens (Section 3)
Every citizen of Canada has the right to vote in an election of members of the House of Commons or of a legislative assembly and to be qualified for membership therein.
Every citizen of Canada has the right to vote in an election of members of the House of Commons or of a legislative assembly and to be qualified for membership therein.
** is the Senate, by this very definition, a
legislative assembly? I would say
YES! Therefore it should be elected.
Equality
before and under law and equal protection and benefit of law (Section 15)
(1) Every individual is equal before and under the law and has the right to the equal protection and equal benefit of the law without discrimination and, in particular, without discrimination based on race, national or ethnic origin, colour, religion, sex, age or mental or physical disability.
(1) Every individual is equal before and under the law and has the right to the equal protection and equal benefit of the law without discrimination and, in particular, without discrimination based on race, national or ethnic origin, colour, religion, sex, age or mental or physical disability.
** again, according to this
section of the Charter, we in the West should have "equal protection and
equal benefit of the law without discrimination". With such an unfair overweighed advantage to Quebec, Ontario,
and the Maritimes, we ARE NOT receiving equal protection and equal benefit --
far from it!
Enforcement
of guaranteed rights and freedoms (Section 24)
(1) Anyone whose rights or freedoms, as guaranteed by this Charter, have been infringed or denied may apply to a court of competent jurisdiction to obtain such remedy as the court considers appropriate and just in the circumstances
(1) Anyone whose rights or freedoms, as guaranteed by this Charter, have been infringed or denied may apply to a court of competent jurisdiction to obtain such remedy as the court considers appropriate and just in the circumstances
** our
'rights' are being infringed upon, and denied.
As I noted above, "... the (provincial)
government should fight tooth and nail, up to and including a Charter challenge
to the Supreme Court of Canada,
if the federal government ignores our wishes
Amendments
without Senate resolution (Section 47)
(1) An amendment to the Constitution
of Canada made by proclamation under Section, 38, 41, 42, or 43 may be made
without a resolution of the Senate authorizing the issue of the proclamation
if, within one hundred and eighty days after the adoption by the House of
Commons of a resolution authorizing its issue, the Senate has not adopted such
a resolution and if, at any time after the expiration of that period, the House
of Commons again adopts the resolution
And
finally, here's the kicker for me ... the LAW OF THE LAND. Section 52, Primacy of Constitution of
Canada, specifically states:
"The
Constitution of Canada is the supreme law of Canada, and any law that is
inconsistent with the provisions of the Constitution is, to the extent of the
inconsistency, of no force or effect."
Given
what I have read, having an unequal Senate, that is un-elected, is definitely inconsistent with the provisions of the
Constitution is, to the extent of the inconsistency, of no force or effect.
The Fathers of Confederation |
Yes ...
BC Conservative Party leader Dan Brooks was right in stating that the Province
and government of BC should be, "... fighting for a Triple-E Senate that is
Elected, Effective and Equal because we see that as a possible remedy to
long-standing imbalances in Canadian politics and economics"
What was missing was the fire-in-the-belly conviction of someone
hell bent on ensuring that our 'rights and freedoms' are indeed respected, and
provided for. That's because it IS the law of the land.
Come on
Dan ... fire up the people of BC!
Tell them
that not only does the West Want In, but that the west wants in as an EQUAL
partner. That's what the Fathers of
Confederation wanted, and that is what we have every right to expect. And if push comes to shove, it's what BC must
demand!
In Kamloops, I'm Alan Forseth. Please feel free to share your thoughts on this, by posting in the Comments Section below.
In Kamloops, I'm Alan Forseth. Please feel free to share your thoughts on this, by posting in the Comments Section below.
I don't think the fathers of confederation wanted the West to be an equal partner. If they did then they would have made us equal in senate representation. In my view the Senate should be abolished. We have way too much government now reaching into our pockets and grabbing more of our hard earned dollars. I concur with the gentleman that condemned Brookes for making a statement of this nature, which is a policy statement before a general meeting which should taken place in a couple of months. Most of that meeting should be taken up with policy. There as been hardly a word on the BC Conservative website since June. That article in June was praising what a wonderful constitution we have and how British Columbians will now be yearning to join us because we amended the constitution! What a joke. Brookes wants a democratically elected Senate. However for himself he wants only a 40% vote of the membership to endorse him so he can remain leader. If we are going to elect Senators. (Something which Prime Minister Mulroney endorsed) then we should at least be practical about it and elect only the number of Senators we are entitled to in the Senate. The Supreme Court and the majority province have been absolutely clear where we are at on Senate reform. I feel we should abolish the Senate, but if that is not doable then lets start off by doing something that is doable. But what does it really matter anyways because Brookes has now taken it upon himself to be the only decision maker when it comes to policy.
ReplyDeleteFirst let me say I will leave comments as to Dan Brooks aside, other than a note that statements representing the part, should indeed reflect the will of the members, and policy agreed upon by them.
DeleteAs to your comment, "I don't think the fathers of confederation wanted the West to be an equal partner. If they did then they would have made us equal in senate representation." ... on this we will have to disagree.
As I laid out in my post, it appears the Senate was indeed intended to equally represent all regions of the province, with equal participation from the West, the East, Ontario, and Quebec. It is in fact Central Canada that has perverted the intent, thereby claiming for themselves, a majority of power.
Each was in fact to have a 1/4 representation, however with leader of our Federal government, in most instances, coming from Central Canada, they instead insured the West got left behind.
The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge.”
ReplyDelete― Stephen Hawking
Can you elaborate Doug??
DeleteOne of my political friends email me with a comment regarding this post. They said ... William Thorsell says this much better than I ever could. Essentially I am concerned that we could end up with the same issues that the US faces with an elected senate. Just my opinion.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-debate/how-can-we-create-a-smaller-more-engaged-senate-in-canada/article27657484/
My response back was:
I read that piece as well several days, and believe me I gave it serious consideration. What he says makes a lot of sense. I still believe however, that within the context of 'electing' senators, the same things could be achieved; principally these two points he made:
1) If the Senate wishes to propose amendments to any legislation from the House of Commons, it will return that amended legislation to the Commons within a certain time frame.
2) In those cases, when the legislation returns from the Commons, amended or not, the Senate will pass it immediately.
I believe that would put the proper checks and balances in place, and electors would be well able to evaluate if posturing is going on in Parliament or the Senate. In such a case, the offending individuals would find themselves out of a job come the next election.
I've been having some interesting discussions on this post ... please feel free to include your thoughts here as well.
Thanks ... alan